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Post by porter91 on Nov 28, 2012 16:50:38 GMT -5
Hey all, today Montgomery County Parks and Rec added some real useful info on the kiosk sign down at Whitethorne. Your basic fish identification and fishing information but also some water flow data with charts. This will tell you how long it takes for levels to rise or fall based from either Claytor Dam or from the USGS Radford gage(which is most useful). It is a neat graph that correlates time based on CFS and river miles. The locations are from Claytor Dam all the way to Glyn Lyn. This will help with your planning if you are targeting the rise of flow for fishing or recreational purposes. Check it out.
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Post by philipgoldwing on Nov 28, 2012 19:57:31 GMT -5
Well thanks for the heads up. ;D Obviously you were just there so how was the fishing? The weather looks good for this weekend and I was thinking bout heading out. Probably at Belspring though.
Phil
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Post by porter91 on Nov 28, 2012 21:23:01 GMT -5
Hey Phil, I just went out to pin up the info on the sign and did not get on the water. it was low, cold, and crystal clear water, about five trucks down there so I know they were trying. I think I am going to hit up Belspring area on Friday at some point if you want to hook up.
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Post by uncross on Nov 28, 2012 21:46:08 GMT -5
Thanks, for the info, I wonder if that is online somewhere also? That would be hand info to have. We had a discussion on here a while back about if anyone had ever studied to see how long it took for the release of water at Clayton to effect whitethorn and below.
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Post by porter91 on Nov 28, 2012 22:32:18 GMT -5
Its not online. This came from the Claytor/AEP 50 year Dam relicensing that took place a couple of years ago. I know this is a little controversial around here but I was on the committee pushing for recreational releases from AEP for whitewater boating events and this was just one of many studies that came out of it. We worked with DGIF, biologist, engineers, and local stakeholders involved on the New and when done right with proper timing there is No ill effects on bank erosion, spawning, or biology of the river ecosystem. This is a win win situation for all. There are some hard headed folks out there that don't understand historical data or care to try. These folks are the controversial situation. Any way if you understand the ramping and timing of flows you can plan for a good experience on the river. Fish on!!!
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Post by uncross on Nov 28, 2012 22:43:50 GMT -5
I just sent an email, to parks and recreation to see if we can get a copy of the chart to put on here.
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Post by philipgoldwing on Nov 29, 2012 6:25:20 GMT -5
Gotta work Fri. It's SAT or Sun for me. Most probably Sat afternoon.
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Post by uncross on Nov 29, 2012 15:44:28 GMT -5
I received the charts by email. I can't open them on the phone but will try to get them on here tonight when i get home
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Post by anglerxxx on Nov 29, 2012 15:55:44 GMT -5
I received the charts by email. I can't open them on the phone but will try to get them on here tonight when i get home I'm off today, now the suspense is killing me!!! I'm actually very interested to see the data. I hope it shows how long the water takes to make it out to Giles, too. It will really make the USGS data way more valuable(to me, anyway).  |
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Post by porter91 on Nov 29, 2012 19:24:10 GMT -5
anglerxxx, The graph shows the track of the flow all the way through Giles Co. and references all the public put ins and take outs. Just alittle more info for your WVA boys and girls is Bluestone Dam 99% of the time follows Claytors release patterns so you can count on flow predictions all the way through the New River Gorge exactly 48hours from the Radford gauge. This works out well for the whitewater folks looking to dial in there favorite play spot.
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Post by porter91 on Nov 29, 2012 19:54:34 GMT -5
Here is alittle more gauge info for the Radford reading. There is a phone number that you can call and get the radford level in feet. Back before internet this was the only way to get gauge readings for the New. It will give you real time levels. When you dial this number 540 639 3425 you will here a long beep. After it gives the level it will say "inter command" at this point you can hit 7 and that give you what the level was 30 min prier. Hit 7 again and now you are back 1 hr and so on. McCoy is roughly 5 to 7 hours away depending on high or low water. We knew exactly when to show up at ender hole for a perfect level for playboating. For people with Dumb phones now this still works great. Give it a shot!
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Post by uncross on Nov 29, 2012 21:57:47 GMT -5
I am having trouble getting the second chart to post. does anyone know how to make the charts from a pdf show up on the site instead of having to download them?
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Post by uncross on Nov 29, 2012 22:04:46 GMT -5
I couldn't get them loaded on the same post, so I made 2 posts
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Post by samrorrer on Nov 30, 2012 8:32:40 GMT -5
But, best I can tell, it can take from 5 to 8 hours from the gage at Radford to Whitethorne (15+ miles), depending on how many gates are open. You will see the increase at Eggleston (about 25-27 miles) about 10 hours. Damn, I'm good. I was on the committee pushing for recreational releases from AEP for whitewater boating events and this was just one of many studies that came out of it. Unnecessary slugs of water is one thing I'm on board with NROC to prevent. Water that goes in Claytor should be the amount that comes out of Claytor. Maybe play-boating can be accomplished following rain?Just a thought. They didn't raise it yesterday so I could get over gravel bars. |
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Post by anglerxxx on Nov 30, 2012 8:46:01 GMT -5
;D I thought I remembered you posting that somewhere. |
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